Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

03/22/2007 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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*+ HB 72 SCHOOL DISTRICT COST FACTORS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 198 SENIOR ASSISTANCE PAYMENT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 181 TRAFFIC OFFENSES: FINES/SCHOOL ZONES TELECONFERENCED
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HB  72-SCHOOL DISTRICT COST FACTORS                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:07:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 72, "An Act  relating to the district cost factors                                                               
for  state   funding  of  public  education;   providing  for  an                                                               
effective date  by repealing the  delayed effective date  of sec.                                                               
6, ch. 41, SLA 2006; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:07:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MIKE   CHENAULT,   Alaska   State   Legislature,                                                               
presented HB 72, as the prime  sponsor.  He pointed out that cost                                                               
differential factors  for educational funding have  been an issue                                                               
for  some time.  Representative  Chenault said  that  HB 72  will                                                               
enact  the  results  of  the Institute  of  Social  and  Economic                                                               
Research (ISER), University of Alaska,  Anchorage, study that was                                                               
done  to evaluate  the differential  cost  factors for  different                                                               
parts of the  state.  He informed the committee  that the current                                                               
foundation  formula  bill was  passed  in  1998, and  allows  for                                                               
adjustments to be  made to the formula.   School districts around                                                               
the state have  proven that there is a problem  with the formula.                                                               
He  noted  that  funding  to   100  percent  of  the  ISER  study                                                               
recommendations will  mean an additional $10  million dollars for                                                               
the school district  in Kenai.  The previous  funding formula has                                                               
been especially  difficult for the  smaller school  districts. In                                                               
fact, today  the larger  school districts  are beginning  to feel                                                               
the changes in their budgets, due  to the cost factors, which the                                                               
smaller school districts have been  experiencing for seven years.                                                               
He said  that the  results of  inadequate school  funding include                                                               
the  loss of  bus transportation,  class consolidation,  and even                                                               
school  closures,   although  the  school  districts   are  doing                                                               
everything  that they  can to  utilize the  funds that  the state                                                               
provides.  Representative Chenault  observed that some cities and                                                               
boroughs provide as  much additional funding as is  allowed in an                                                               
attempt to ease the crisis in their schools.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER recalled that last  year 25 percent of the                                                               
ISER  recommendations  were implemented.    She  asked whether  a                                                               
similar additional percentage was planned for subsequent years.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CHENAULT   explained   that   25   percent   was                                                               
appropriated last year,  with a provision to  revisit the formula                                                               
each year.   He suggested that [the  increased percentage] should                                                               
be in the formula.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  observed that  there are  vast inequities                                                               
in school  funding across the state.   She asked what  effect the                                                               
passage of HB 72 would have on Anchorage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT  answered that  if $72 million  are added                                                               
to  the  formula,  it  would   not  have  a  negative  impact  on                                                               
Anchorage.  However,  this amount added to the  formula would not                                                               
gain Anchorage any funds.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER stated that there  is a dispute about some                                                               
of the  underpinnings and conclusions  of the ISER study  and she                                                               
asked to have someone come forward to discuss those issues.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH asked how  school districts qualify for                                                               
power cost equalization.   In addition, Anchorage,  as a regional                                                               
hub, requires more special needs  funding due to the high density                                                               
of special  needs children there.   She asked for  information on                                                               
how the ISER  study reflects this additional need.   Referring to                                                               
the  fiscal note,  Representative  Fairclough then  asked for  an                                                               
explanation of  the following:   "Money  in the  Public Education                                                               
Fund (PEF) flows  to K-12 support with  out further appropriation                                                               
for distribution to school districts."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:20:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  indicated that  public  testimony  would be  taken                                                               
before  the  analysis by  the  Department  of Education  &  Early                                                               
Development (EED).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:21:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BLAINE GILMAN, Attorney at Law,  Lobbyist for the Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Borough, stated  the borough's support  for HB 72.   He explained                                                               
that, according to  the ISER report, the  Kenai Peninsula Borough                                                               
School  District  ("KPBSD")  will  be  underfunded  by  over  $11                                                               
million in  FY 08.   The cause of the  under funding is  that the                                                               
current cost  differential treats  the KPBSD  as an  urban school                                                               
district; however,  it serves rural and  urban schools, including                                                               
four village  schools.   Mr. Gilman  said current  funding allows                                                               
KPBSD only four-tenths  of one percent over  the Anchorage school                                                               
district allowance.   This district has always  been supported by                                                               
local  government at  the maximum  allowable level  and maintains                                                               
the lowest  administrative costs   of any school district  in the                                                               
state.   Under the current funding,  72 teachers will need  to be                                                               
laid off and  will result in student teacher ratios  to be raised                                                               
to 1:24  for kindergarten classes.   In the smaller  schools, the                                                               
teachers will  be teaching  multiple grade  level classes.   With                                                               
all of these  measures the district will still  be operating with                                                               
a deficit of $2 million.   He opined that his public education in                                                               
Kenai  was more  complete than  what his  children are  receiving                                                               
now, that  school funding  is inadequate,  and that  education is                                                               
taking a step backward.  Mr.  Gilman concluded by saying that the                                                               
cost differential is  the most critical problem  facing the KPBSD                                                               
today and urged members to pass HB 72 from committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:25:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET GILMAN informed the committee  that she was speaking for                                                               
her four school-aged  children and stated her support  for HB 72.                                                               
Ms.  Gilman  pointed out  the  opportunities  she received  while                                                               
attending public  school in  Kenai and said  that the  quality of                                                               
school  has  become  minimized.    At  this  time  there  are  no                                                               
supplemental classes outside of what  is required for passing the                                                               
high school graduation  exams.  As a society, we  want to do more                                                               
for our  children, not less.   Ms. Gilman urged the  committee to                                                               
pass HB 72, in order to  prevent this generation of Alaskans from                                                               
being offered fewer opportunities for education.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:27:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Peter Klauder, President of Klauder  & Company Architects, stated                                                               
his  support for  HB 72  and described  how he  originally looked                                                               
forward to  having his  children attend  public school  in Kenai.                                                               
Mr. Klauder said that he and  his wife, a school nurse, have been                                                               
active  in the  schools as  volunteers and  as school  employees.                                                               
Since his children have started  school, funding has been cut and                                                               
the  supplemental teachers  and  programs  have been  eliminated;                                                               
beginning  with the  librarian and  music and  art programs.   He                                                               
informed  the  committee  that  advanced  placement  high  school                                                               
classes  for seniors  may not  be  available soon.   Mr.  Klauder                                                               
strongly  urged the  committee's support  for HB  72, which  will                                                               
provide some equity in the distribution of school funding.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:29:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROLANN BARUM  stated her support  for HB  72 and said  that she                                                               
has  watched  the educational  opportunities  at  the schools  in                                                               
Kenai decrease.  As a  professional health care provider with two                                                               
children,  she  researched  the schools  several  years  ago  and                                                               
relocated to  Kenai because  of the  school system;  however, the                                                               
schools  have  lost  librarians,  music  and  advanced  placement                                                               
classes.  Ms. Barum urged the committee's support of HB 72.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  and Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department of  Education and Early  Development (EED),  said that                                                               
HB 72  will implement the  full recommendations of the  2005 ISER                                                               
report.    Mr. Jeans  explained  that  the  fiscal note  cost  of                                                               
$72,608 million  represents the  remainder outstanding  after the                                                               
previous  appropriation  of $24  million.    In response  to  the                                                               
question  from  Representative   Fairclough,  he  explained  that                                                               
monies that  are appropriated to  the PEF  are held in  that fund                                                               
until disbursed by EED, according to statutory entitlement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:34:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked whether the PEF is a different fund.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  answered that the PEF  is the same fund  passed out of                                                               
this committee to the House  Finance Committee, and it also funds                                                               
the foundation and  pupil transportation fund.   Also included in                                                               
that   appropriations  bill   was  additional   funding  to   the                                                               
Department  of  Administration  for  the  Public  Employee's  and                                                               
Teacher's Retirement System (PERS/TRS).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:34:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FAIRCLOUGH  asked   whether  Chair   Wilson  was                                                               
referring to the Education Endowment fund.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  recalled that  last year  funds for  education were                                                               
set aside.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  explained that monies  are held  in the PEF  fund, and                                                               
the fund  can be over funded,  like a holding account,  and funds                                                               
are disbursed by additional appropriations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked whether schools  receive money from the EED on                                                               
a monthly basis.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS   said  yes.     Monthly  payments  are   a  statutory                                                               
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  asked whether  education has  only one                                                               
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS answered yes.  He then  said that there is one fund for                                                               
the pupil transportation and foundation programs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH expressed  her understanding  that the                                                               
state legislature  has a holding  account, that has money  in it,                                                               
for forward  funding of education.   She asked whether  there was                                                               
an account that does not "move forward."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  responded that [PEF]  is the  account and it  does not                                                               
require  further appropriation  from  the  legislature, once  the                                                               
appropriation is made to the fund.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked about the basic  disputes regarding                                                               
the ISER study.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS replied that the one  area under the ISER study that is                                                               
under  dispute is  the issue  dealing with  teacher compensation.                                                               
He  explained  that the  American  Institute  for Research  (AIR)                                                               
reported that average  teacher salaries were the  same across the                                                               
state.   However,  the ISER  peer review  indicated that  certain                                                               
aspects  were  not  taken into  consideration,  such  as  teacher                                                               
experience, turnover, and  longevity.  Mr. Jeans  opined that the                                                               
cost differentials reported by the  ISER study were substantially                                                               
higher after these factors were included.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANCIE ROBERTS informed the committee  that she is a high school                                                               
teacher at  Homer High School and  stated her support for  HB 72.                                                               
Ms. Roberts explained  that in the past 13 years  the 500 student                                                               
high  school has  lost home  economics, photography,  two foreign                                                               
languages, drama, and the gifted  and talented program.  There is                                                               
one  vocational   education  teacher,  one  counselor,   and  the                                                               
athletic director and  librarian are half-time.   She opined that                                                               
it has been sad to see  the school programs dwindle over the last                                                               
fifteen years.  A small school in  the area has been closed.  Ms.                                                               
Roberts urged  the committee  to support  100 percent  funding of                                                               
the ISER study.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON LONG informed  the committee that he is a  resident of Seward                                                               
and is testifying  on his own behalf.  He  stated his support for                                                               
HB 72 and  described the lack of funding for  the Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Borough  School  District.    Mr.  Long said  that  there  is  an                                                               
inequitable  distribution of  educational funding  throughout the                                                               
state.   The borough  has been funding  education to  the maximum                                                               
allowed,  but  programs are  still  being  lost.    It is  not  a                                                               
function of  enrollment or high administration  costs, he opined,                                                               
it is  a problem of  the cost differential.   Mr. Long  urged the                                                               
committee to seriously consider HB 72.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  asked  what  percent of  the  budget  is                                                               
allocated to administration costs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. LONG estimated 3 percent.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  JONES, Director  of Finance,  Kodiak Island  Borough School                                                               
District,   explained   that    the   current   funding   formula                                                               
appropriated  by SB  36  was based  on the  McDowell  study.   He                                                               
recalled that the  McDowell study included a  disclaimer that the                                                               
study  was not  sufficient on  which to  base a  funding formula;                                                               
however, that is what happened.   SB36 called for EED to redo the                                                               
cost factors,  and the  department ordered  the AIR  study, which                                                               
was never  implemented.  Now, there  is the ISER peer  review and                                                               
recommendations which  take teacher turnover  under consideration                                                               
and are  better tools to  utilize than SB36.   Mr. Jones  drew an                                                               
analogy of  PERS/TRS and  payments made  outside of  the formula.                                                               
The full study needs to be implemented, he stressed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATTY  RICH stated  her  support for  HB 72.    She informed  the                                                               
committee that  Kenai Peninsula Borough  school funding  has been                                                               
declining for several  years and needs to be restored.  In the 20                                                               
years  she  has  had  children  in  the  school  system  she  has                                                               
witnessed program  reductions.  She  urged the committee  to fund                                                               
schools adequately and fairly.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:47:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
John  Williams,  Mayor,  Kenai   Peninsula  Borough,  stated  his                                                               
support for HB  72, and said that without adequate  funding it is                                                               
not possible to maintain good  teacher and administrative levels.                                                               
He noted  that the  schools in  his borough  are remote  and must                                                               
provide teacher housing and transportation.   He gave examples of                                                               
teacher  shortages  at  the  borough  schools  and  the  lack  of                                                               
vocational  educational programs.   Mayor  Williams concluded  by                                                               
saying that  the Kenai  Peninsula Borough  is very  supportive of                                                               
bring funding to the ISER report level.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIE  HAMMOND told  the committee  that  her kindergartener  at                                                               
Nikiski  North Star  Elementary  School has  23  children in  her                                                               
class and  her second grader has  25 students in his  class.  The                                                               
school projects  next year's enrollment  to be 368  students with                                                               
14 teachers.   She expressed her  hope that more funding  will be                                                               
available next year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:51:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH GERMANO, Member, Kenai  Peninsula Borough Assembly, asked                                                               
the committee  to look at the  inequities of funding.   She noted                                                               
that  Anchorage citizens  can provide  support  for education  by                                                               
additional  municipal  funding;   however,  the  Kenai  Peninsula                                                               
Borough  is  funding its  schools  to  the  maximum amount.    In                                                               
addition,  she pointed  out  that her  borough  is using  general                                                               
funds for pupil transportation.   Ms. Germano urged the committee                                                               
to support HB 72.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:53:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  clarified that she had  asked whether the                                                               
bill  would  hurt Anchorage,  not  what  the  bill would  do  for                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL HATCH,  Member, Kenai Peninsula School  Board, recalled that                                                               
at one time the schools in  Kenai were well equipped.  Presently,                                                               
funding cuts  have taken  their resources  beyond the  bare bones                                                               
and students  are suffering.   Large and small schools  have lost                                                               
programs and important courses are no longer available.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER asked what  percent of the school district                                                               
budget is administration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HATCH said about four percent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:56:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MILLI MARTIN,  Member, Kenai  Peninsula Borough  Assembly, stated                                                               
that she  was testifying on  her own behalf.   She said  that the                                                               
Kenai Peninsula  Borough covers an  area of 25,000  square miles,                                                               
and supports 44 schools.  Five  of the schools are not accessible                                                               
on the road system; and yet,  Kenai schools are funded at a level                                                               
close to that of Anchorage and  the Mat-Su school districts.  Ms.                                                               
Martin opined  that, if Anchorage  were funded at  Kenai's level,                                                               
the projected loss of teachers  to Anchorage would be 350, rather                                                               
than the projected  100.  She pointed out that  property taxes in                                                               
the Kenai  Peninsula Borough are paying  a disproportionate share                                                               
of education costs.   Ms. Martin strongly urged  the committee to                                                               
enact HB 72.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:58:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIZ  DOWNING,  Member,  Kenai  Peninsula  Borough  School  Board,                                                               
informed the  committee that as  a school board member,  the most                                                               
frequent comment she hears is  that Alaska, one of the wealthiest                                                               
states, does  not have the  will to fund its  educational system.                                                               
She  noted that  families are  leaving the  state because  of the                                                               
minimal  school opportunities  for their  children.   Ms. Downing                                                               
stated  that her  school  district is  limited  to teaching  core                                                               
classes  and the  best new  teachers are  being laid  off.   This                                                               
situation, she said,  is the result of not  implementing ISER for                                                               
the last  15 years.   She  concluded by saying  that this  is not                                                               
what the  students deserve, or  what is wanted for  our children,                                                               
and asked that the full amount of the ISER study be funded.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PHILIPPA  SONNICHSEN informed  that  committee that  she and  her                                                               
husband  have two  children  in  the Kenai  school  system.   Ms.                                                               
Sonnichsen  pointed  out  that her  school  district  supports  a                                                               
school in Seldovia, and it  is very expensive to maintain schools                                                               
that are  off the road system.   She said that  she is supporting                                                               
HB  72  because it  is  the  right thing  to  do.   Current  cost                                                               
differentials are  unfair to the  Kenai Peninsula  Borough School                                                               
District.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:02:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETER LARSON described his extensive  experience as a teacher and                                                               
administrator  working  for  32  years  in  the  Kenai  Peninsula                                                               
Borough School District and elsewhere.   He expressed his concern                                                               
over  the decline  in  educational funding  that  began in  1986.                                                               
Teachers  and  administrators are  being  held  to an  impossible                                                               
standard  as  programs,  staff,  and   resources  are  cut.    He                                                               
suggested that cookie sales can  not attract the highest standard                                                               
of teachers  to the district.   His international  experience has                                                               
shown  that  Alaska  students are  losing  the  competitive  edge                                                               
needed to succeed.  At  one time, the international programs were                                                               
behind  the  quality standards  of  Kenai  schools; however,  the                                                               
situation has  reversed.  He  urged the committee to  correct the                                                               
funding  formula, increase  funding to  all schools,  and forward                                                               
fund education.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELODY DOUGLAS, Chief Financial  Officer, Kenai Peninsula Borough                                                               
School  District,   expressed  her  belief  that   any  study  of                                                               
differential cost  will be faulted;  however, the state  needs to                                                               
move  ahead to  begin  to  recover from  the  past  losses.   Her                                                               
district has a $1 million  shortfall in transportation which must                                                               
be made up by the general  fund.  Ms. Douglas relayed the effects                                                               
of  the  increased costs  of  liability  and property  insurance,                                                               
workman's compensation  costs, health  care, and utilities.   She                                                               
urged the committee to choose  to support Alaska's most important                                                               
resource, its children.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  for  the percentage  of the  budget                                                               
that goes into  administration, and how it compares  to the other                                                               
school districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DOUGLAS answered  that administration  costs are  about four                                                               
percent  and  every district  is  in  a  reduction mode  in  that                                                               
regard.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:07:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINNY ESPENSHADE  stated that she has  had a child in  the public                                                               
school system for 14 years.   She opined that the legislature has                                                               
had years  to understand the  ISER study and the  complexities of                                                               
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:09:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN O'NEILL informed the committee  that Alaska is a state that                                                               
develops its  natural resources,  but for  15 years  its children                                                               
have not  been developed.   She opined  that the state  will pay,                                                               
with jails  and other negative  outcomes, if the schools  are not                                                               
funded.  Ms.  O'Neill strongly urged the committee  to support HB
72.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:10:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARL  ROSE,  Executive  Director, Association  of  Alaska  School                                                               
Boards  (AASB),  reminded the  committee  that  under the  former                                                               
foundation  formula  there  was  an  oversight  regarding  small,                                                               
single site  schools and the  legislature mitigated  that problem                                                               
for ten of the  next eleven years.  When SB36  was passed, it was                                                               
controversial, but  it was  understood that  the funding  was not                                                               
adequate and  that the  formula would  be revisited.   Therefore,                                                               
the AIR and  ISER studies were completed.  The  AASB supports 100                                                               
percent  implementation of  the ISER  study and  supports HB  72.                                                               
Mr. Rose  added that the  policy issues regarding this  bill have                                                               
been covered.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  FRANCIS,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Council  of  School                                                               
Administrators   (ACSA),  recalled   that   the  education   cost                                                               
differential has not been adjusted,  but once since 1998, and the                                                               
failure  to  do so  threatens  the  integrity of  the  foundation                                                               
formula program.   She said that  the ACSA is in  support of full                                                               
funding of  the ISER study  and reiterated  that HB 72  should be                                                               
accompanied by an increase in  the base student allocation to all                                                               
school  districts.    Dr.  Francis  noted  that  her  association                                                               
discussed  the flaws  in the  ISER study  and concluded  that the                                                               
current formula is flawed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:13:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN ALCANTRA, Government  Relations Director, National Education                                                               
Association-Alaska (NEA-Alaska), informed  the committee that his                                                               
association  represents   13,000  public  school   employees  and                                                               
strongly supports  HB 72.   He said that  he has visited  many of                                                               
the small  schools in  the rural areas  and his  experience shows                                                               
that the  rural schools do  not have the opportunities  for their                                                               
students  that the  urban schools  have.   These schools  will be                                                               
positively impacted by HB 72 and urged its passage.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:14:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:15:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER explained  that  sometimes questions  are                                                               
asked so  that the answer  can be on  the record, not  to reflect                                                               
support or opposition to a bill.   She then moved to report HB 72                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.   There being no objection,  HB 72 was                                                               
reported out of  the House Health, Education  and Social Services                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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